Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Tranberg » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Changing roller weights is not much more complicated than swapping front sprockets on a Cub to suit the rider's weight and riding conditions.

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Geoff from Preston » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 am

My Vision was a beautiful little bike. 2nd only to my C90. She would cruse along at a steady 50mph with Sheila on the back, on the motorway she could slipstream HGV’s all day without much difficulty.
I once raced Bogger up Jeffrey Hill & he was only a bit faster on his C90 but I’m sure he had a had a Lifan engine in it.
At the supermarket I could get a case of Peroni in the footwell, a bag of shopping on the pillion as well as stuff in the locker & top box. The locker was ideal for keeping pies or fish or chips warm, I used to fill it with baked potatoes & give them out on the Blackpool Illuminations trip.
She was easy to clean- just washed like the car, no chrome to worry about. Easy to fit in the garage, tubeless tyres so punctures could be fixed with a moose kit, no chain to oil & adjust, nice warm feet & about 110-120mpg. Perfeck!
A superb little bike, future classic & a credit to Honda engineering.

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Scootyman » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:18 pm

I’ve just changed the roller weights for Dr Pulley sliders in my 2017 Vision 110esp and what a difference it made. With my 18.5 stone lump on board it will pull me up long drawn out hills on my way home at 50 mph. I also cross the Forth road bridge every day and even In a strong headwind it will hold its speed at 50 mph.
I did try the sliders in an S Wing two years ago but wasn’t that impressed by them but with the Vision 110 there is a big difference in the way the little bike performs.
Well worth the money in my opinion

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Viper254 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:59 pm

Scootyman wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:18 pm
I’ve just changed the roller weights for Dr Pulley sliders in my 2017 Vision 110esp and what a difference it made. With my 18.5 stone lump on board it will pull me up long drawn out hills on my way home at 50 mph. I also cross the Forth road bridge every day and even In a strong headwind it will hold its speed at 50 mph.
I did try the sliders in an S Wing two years ago but wasn’t that impressed by them but with the Vision 110 there is a big difference in the way the little bike performs.
Well worth the money in my opinion
If you get the size right, sliders are the way forwards - they open up a little more gearing and help so much with the setup.

What weights did you put in, if you don't mind? I'd be dead interested to know

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Scootyman » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:15 pm

Viper254 wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:59 pm
Scootyman wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:18 pm
I’ve just changed the roller weights for Dr Pulley sliders in my 2017 Vision 110esp and what a difference it made. With my 18.5 stone lump on board it will pull me up long drawn out hills on my way home at 50 mph. I also cross the Forth road bridge every day and even In a strong headwind it will hold its speed at 50 mph.
I did try the sliders in an S Wing two years ago but wasn’t that impressed by them but with the Vision 110 there is a big difference in the way the little bike performs.
Well worth the money in my opinion
If you get the size right, sliders are the way forwards - they open up a little more gearing and help so much with the setup.

What weights did you put in, if you don't mind? I'd be dead interested to know
No problem,
I used 13 gram Dr Pulley Sliders. The original weights were 15 gram in the 110esp scooters and 14 gram in the early Vision 110’s.
That 2 gram lighter per weight makes a world of difference. I’m sure normal weights would have a very similar effect. I just tried the Dr Pulley ones again to see if they would help and on this occasion they did.
Hope that helps

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Viper254 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:54 am

Scootyman wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:15 pm
No problem,
I used 13 gram Dr Pulley Sliders. The original weights were 15 gram in the 110esp scooters and 14 gram in the early Vision 110’s.
That 2 gram lighter per weight makes a world of difference. I’m sure normal weights would have a very similar effect. I just tried the Dr Pulley ones again to see if they would help and on this occasion they did.
Hope that helps
Thanks. I have 13g sliders on the way for my 200cc, which I think I might have gone too light on!

I haven't had a chance to make my mind up for myself yet but I think the sliders generally give you a little more gearing range because the form of the roller/slider can get further up the variator plate, and closer to the centre. With a conventional (round) roller you may find there's slightly less gearing to play with.

I'm really looking forward to getting mine now!

Thanks for getting back to me.

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by richie the 1st » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:48 am

Geoff from Preston wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 am
My Vision was a beautiful little bike. 2nd only to my C90. She would cruse along at a steady 50mph with Sheila on the back, on the motorway she could slipstream HGV’s all day without much difficulty.
I once raced Bogger up Jeffrey Hill & he was only a bit faster on his C90 but I’m sure he had a had a Lifan engine in it.
At the supermarket I could get a case of Peroni in the footwell, a bag of shopping on the pillion as well as stuff in the locker & top box. The locker was ideal for keeping pies or fish or chips warm, I used to fill it with baked potatoes & give them out on the Blackpool Illuminations trip.
She was easy to clean- just washed like the car, no chrome to worry about. Easy to fit in the garage, tubeless tyres so punctures could be fixed with a moose kit, no chain to oil & adjust, nice warm feet & about 110-120mpg. Perfeck!
A superb little bike, future classic & a credit to Honda engineering.
x 2 8-)

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Viper254 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:28 am

Geoff from Preston wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 am
My Vision was a beautiful little bike. 2nd only to my C90. She would cruse along at a steady 50mph with Sheila on the back, on the motorway she could slipstream HGV’s all day without much difficulty.
I once raced Bogger up Jeffrey Hill & he was only a bit faster on his C90 but I’m sure he had a had a Lifan engine in it.
At the supermarket I could get a case of Peroni in the footwell, a bag of shopping on the pillion as well as stuff in the locker & top box. The locker was ideal for keeping pies or fish or chips warm, I used to fill it with baked potatoes & give them out on the Blackpool Illuminations trip.
She was easy to clean- just washed like the car, no chrome to worry about. Easy to fit in the garage, tubeless tyres so punctures could be fixed with a moose kit, no chain to oil & adjust, nice warm feet & about 110-120mpg. Perfeck!
A superb little bike, future classic & a credit to Honda engineering.
x3 8-) Although I had a Suzuki Address 110, all the above applied. It was functional perfection.

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by richie the 1st » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:28 pm

Got both,and they are not the same.

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Re: Honda vision 110cc up hill speed

Post by Viper254 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:52 am

richie the 1st wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:28 pm
Got both,and they are not the same.
Yours is the older step through model FL125, I'm guessing, though I've never seen the AN110 that your profile description mentions as well. The UK110 (2015 onwards) is 14" twist and go 113cc, just like the Vision 110 :)

It would have been handy if they'd changed the model names!

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