wightegi wrote:EBC organic brake pads work well on the cg .
Food for thought..............
This is what the Honda CG 125 Owners' Club has to say about pad choice:
EBC SFA54 Organic pads.
They are completely the opposite of the Nissin pads, they have more stopping power than I can use (I have tried emergency stops).
They have feel, progressiveness, smoothness, quiet, as well as not needing a lot of pressure to use them.
After running the pads in and using a braided brake hose, I can stop with one finger, stop quickly with 2 fingers and very heavy braking needs 4 fingers.
I have been told and read from several sources that EBC make the best Organic pads and my results have been so good I believe them,
I have used other brands of organic pads in other bikes and none of them were anywhere near the performance of the EBC organic pads.
A friend of mine has put the EBC Organic pads on his 125. He found they work brilliantly when its heavily raining and the roads are soaking wet (they work immediately, no delay).
I have tried the EBC FA054HH Sintered pads. They require more pressure from your fingers compared to the EBC SFA54 organic pads.
I did not have enough pressure to brake as well as the EBC Organics.
Even though I had fitted a braided brake hose, so I highly recommend you use the EBC SFA54 Organic pads instead in the Honda CG125.
After trying 2 makes of Sintered pads and speaking to some mechanics, I am getting very suspicious about Sintered pads.
The main reason motorcycle manufactures switched from organic to sintered on road motorcycles was to improve wet performance.
Many organic pads are bad in the wet, but EBC Organic are very good.
Sintered are meant to have more friction and less brake fade.
EBC Organics are GG rated, the best Sintered are HH (including EBC Sintered), that means there is not much between them.
So why have I had such bad results with Sintered,
one explanation could be Sintered needing to be warmed up before substantial friction is created.
In order to warm them up you may need to brake a lot before you need them and before they cool down again.
A 125cc bike is light and is at slow speeds compared to a big bike at 100 mph (weight and speed affects brake temperature).
A big bike will also have a much more powerful braking system since its designed for much higher speeds.
One mechanic told me on a big bike at 100mph, trying to stop with sintered,
friction was not brilliant, but as the heat builds up (as bike was slowing down) it gets better and better,
around 70 to 80mph the pads have fully warmed up and the friction is massive and the bike stops very quickly.
So it could well be a 125cc bike is so light and is at such slow speeds (60mph), that sintered will never get up to heat.
Resulting in much less friction than with organics pads.
I can not confirm this idea, since I have not tried EBC Organics and EBC Sintered on a race track on a big bike.
The next question is, on a big bike at 60mph, which stops the quickest, EBC Sintered or EBC Organic.
If I had to bet, I would guess the EBC Organic.
Sintered are supposed to last much longer than Organic,
that still seems to be true but EBC Organics claim to last much longer than normal Organics.
Sintered are meant to have little feel, are harsh and hard, ether they are off or substantially on
(EBC Sintered have reduced this problem).
Organics do not have this problem.
